Comments on: New York is Calling http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/ International adventures in cuisine Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: ulterior epicure http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-2051 ulterior epicure Sat, 12 May 2007 02:41:46 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-2051 1. Just to clarify, I didn't hate L'Atelier, but you're right, I didn't love it either. At that price point, I can't really say I walked out over-joyed with the experience. 2. re: Jean Georges. I have eaten at his New York restaurant twice (once for dinner and once for lunch - and the lunch is a steal), and once at the outpost on the Bund in Shanghai. I have never had a bad meal there, although I don't doubt you could. I just got back from eating all over New York and had a rather unremarkable meal at one of his lower-end restaurants, Perry Street. Everything was fresh, some things were very good, but certainly not ground-breaking. That being said, I don't think Perry Street is supposed to be ground-breaking. 1. Just to clarify, I didn’t hate L’Atelier, but you’re right, I didn’t love it either. At that price point, I can’t really say I walked out over-joyed with the experience.

2. re: Jean Georges. I have eaten at his New York restaurant twice (once for dinner and once for lunch – and the lunch is a steal), and once at the outpost on the Bund in Shanghai. I have never had a bad meal there, although I don’t doubt you could. I just got back from eating all over New York and had a rather unremarkable meal at one of his lower-end restaurants, Perry Street. Everything was fresh, some things were very good, but certainly not ground-breaking. That being said, I don’t think Perry Street is supposed to be ground-breaking.

]]> By: mark z http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1812 mark z Tue, 08 May 2007 03:27:07 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1812 I am finally glad to hear some people not afraid to criticize JG.... even if lunch is only 28 bucks, id rather buy 28 papaya-kings My meal there had only one dish that was interesting... not even that good, but it was interesting.... none of the others left much to be remembered by. should not make a short list I am finally glad to hear some people not afraid to criticize JG….
even if lunch is only 28 bucks, id rather buy 28 papaya-kings
My meal there had only one dish that was interesting… not even that good, but it was interesting…. none of the others left much to be remembered by.
should not make a short list

]]> By: Michael http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1660 Michael Thu, 03 May 2007 16:52:52 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1660 Chuck, You'll find a big Rosanjin post on our blog, countryepicure.wordpress.com. A agree with Moby on JG; we didn't like it at all. I am amazed at the high ratings it gets. Chuck, You’ll find a big Rosanjin post on our blog, countryepicure.wordpress.com. A agree with Moby on JG; we didn’t like it at all. I am amazed at the high ratings it gets.

]]> By: ChuckEats http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1640 ChuckEats Thu, 03 May 2007 03:13:35 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1640 Moby, L'Atelier is out and Kuruma Zushi is in - I just can't bring myself to go. And it's been well over a year since I've eaten Kuruma. I too am very much anticipating JG - it was probably my first "very fancy" meal, followed shortly after by French Laundry and Masa's (former Ron Siegel here in SF) and JG was head and shoulders better than both. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my adventures over the past 1.5 years. Michael, never heard of Rosanjin - will do some research and see if it I can fit it into the next NYC trip; however, the closest you will probably get to Urasawa is Masa. Moby, L’Atelier is out and Kuruma Zushi is in – I just can’t bring myself to go. And it’s been well over a year since I’ve eaten Kuruma. I too am very much anticipating JG – it was probably my first “very fancy” meal, followed shortly after by French Laundry and Masa’s (former Ron Siegel here in SF) and JG was head and shoulders better than both. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my adventures over the past 1.5 years.

Michael, never heard of Rosanjin – will do some research and see if it I can fit it into the next NYC trip; however, the closest you will probably get to Urasawa is Masa.

]]> By: Michael http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1595 Michael Wed, 02 May 2007 07:15:15 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1595 I would certainly be interested in your evaluation of Rosanjin in NY as compared to Urasawa. If you have some more theater time, see Journey's End. I would certainly be interested in your evaluation of Rosanjin in NY as compared to Urasawa.
If you have some more theater time, see Journey’s End.

]]> By: Moby. http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1534 Moby. Tue, 01 May 2007 07:45:27 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1534 I'll be interested in your take on JG, having eaten so widely now in France. I found it absolutely dreadful. Unbalanced flavours, dreadful conception in some dishes, good conception but dreadful execution in others. Some average ingredients. L'Atelier needs to be revealed as the corporate airplane food that it is. Makes Bras looks like he invented intimate authenticity (rather than the outward-dissipated cuisine that you and I know he now serves - albeit with the possibility still of a great meal). With Atelier it's ideas taken from (ironically) lesser chefs, and repackaged as 'classic' Robuchon cuisine. Even when done well, it's imitation food. Ersatz, as Vedat would say. I’ll be interested in your take on JG, having eaten so widely now in France. I found it absolutely dreadful. Unbalanced flavours, dreadful conception in some dishes, good conception but dreadful execution in others. Some average ingredients. L’Atelier needs to be revealed as the corporate airplane food that it is. Makes Bras looks like he invented intimate authenticity (rather than the outward-dissipated cuisine that you and I know he now serves – albeit with the possibility still of a great meal). With Atelier it’s ideas taken from (ironically) lesser chefs, and repackaged as ‘classic’ Robuchon cuisine. Even when done well, it’s imitation food. Ersatz, as Vedat would say.

]]> By: ChuckEats http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1513 ChuckEats Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:51:03 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1513 HC, I know the investors (whose eating resume makes my blog look like kid stuff) but the new chef, Mike Bryant, is certainly capable of great dishes. I think their pairing approach is fairly unique and the kitchen serves quite a wide variety of seemingly spontaneous dishes Gagnaire style. The pairings by David are top-notch. I will be back soon to do a proper review. HC, I know the investors (whose eating resume makes my blog look like kid stuff) but the new chef, Mike Bryant, is certainly capable of great dishes. I think their pairing approach is fairly unique and the kitchen serves quite a wide variety of seemingly spontaneous dishes Gagnaire style. The pairings by David are top-notch. I will be back soon to do a proper review.

]]> By: H.C. http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1511 H.C. Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:28:48 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1511 Can't wait to see your Bin8945 post; LA foodies seemed to be especially polarized about the food & service at this place (and the owner's <a href="http://la.eater.com/archives/2007/03/12/resto_owners_respond_bin_8945_is_more_than_a_wine_bar.php" rel="nofollow">response to this</a> created a stir of sorts as well.) I personally went there once (before I started my blog) and I enjoyed it, though I can certainly empathize with some of the problems the detractors have. Can’t wait to see your Bin8945 post; LA foodies seemed to be especially polarized about the food & service at this place (and the owner’s response to this created a stir of sorts as well.)

I personally went there once (before I started my blog) and I enjoyed it, though I can certainly empathize with some of the problems the detractors have.

]]> By: ChuckEats http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1497 ChuckEats Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:11:18 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1497 Rory, yes, JG is for lunch. For this trip, it's more of a time constraint but all reports I've heard indicate lunch is often better than dinner (JG is in the house) at, like you say, a fraction of the price. Rory, yes, JG is for lunch. For this trip, it’s more of a time constraint but all reports I’ve heard indicate lunch is often better than dinner (JG is in the house) at, like you say, a fraction of the price.

]]> By: Rory http://www.chuckeats.com/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/comment-page-1/#comment-1491 Rory Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:27:29 +0000 http://chuckeats.com/blog3/2007/04/30/new-york-is-calling/#comment-1491 Granted, your blog has given no indication that budget/value are key considerations for your dining agenda, but its worth mentioning that lunch at Jean Georges is an absolutely absurd deal (or at least it was when I was there about 5 months ago). $28 for 2 courses (not counting amuses/mignardises); $12 for each extra course; $8 (I think) for dessert. My mom and I had an awesome meal there for under $150 including tax, tip, etc. (no wine, admittedly, but still). If I lived in NY I'd probably eat lunch there once a week. Granted, your blog has given no indication that budget/value are key considerations for your dining agenda, but its worth mentioning that lunch at Jean Georges is an absolutely absurd deal (or at least it was when I was there about 5 months ago). $28 for 2 courses (not counting amuses/mignardises); $12 for each extra course; $8 (I think) for dessert. My mom and I had an awesome meal there for under $150 including tax, tip, etc. (no wine, admittedly, but still). If I lived in NY I’d probably eat lunch there once a week.

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